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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0008305 | Scribus | Fonts | public | 2009-07-27 15:48 | 2009-07-28 16:59 |
| Reporter | jc | Assigned To | jghali | ||
| Priority | normal | Severity | feature | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | closed | Resolution | duplicate | ||
| Platform | Windows | OS | Windows | OS Version | XP |
| Product Version | 1.3.3.14svn | ||||
| Summary | 0008305: Ligature support | ||||
| Description | I just installed Scribus. Then I tested two fonts for ligatures: Calibri by Microsft and Suriyakumara that has a lot of ligatures. Suriyakumara is a font that I made for a language called Sinhala based on Latin codepoints. (A transliteration). The ligatures did not show. If I use Adobe apps, they show the ligatures. The reason is that they rely on OpenType features and lookup tables built into fonts to display ligatures. The ligatures are stored in locations inside the Private Use Area of Unicode code space that only the font knows. One of the bug reports I saw was about the inability to space the glyphs proportionately when ligatures are involved. This is a problem in Adobe too. However, it is great for my font because I want the ligatures to stay as they are when glyphs are spaced out. That bug report gives a hint the way way you pick ligatures. They are Unicode assigned ligatures for well-known ligatures. (Following TrueType). That limits the use of fonts in Scribus. Supposing you want to use Zapfino, I guess it won't work in Scribus. | ||||
| Steps To Reproduce | Test Calibri for ligature display inside a text box (Use the words such as difficult, affluent). Try this string alternately in Arial and Suriyakumara (attached): mama geðara giyaa | ||||
| Additional Information | I feel that since OpenType standard has been in use for some years, Scribus ought to support it. If it does, it would be a great boon for poor Indic people that Anglicize their languages, which is full of ambiguity. If Scribus supports OpenType then a simple switch could be provided to turn on and off ligature formation. That would help with cases where people want to space out the glyphs after turning off ligature formation. Thank you! | ||||
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A note to the reporter: You should see http://fontmatrix.net and also 1.3.3.x is stable. Development is in 1.3.5svn and 1.5.0svn |
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Duplicate of numerous bugs, closing. |
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This issue was placed under Indic and closed. That is a mistake. Technically, this is a Latin fonts issue. The confusion arises because the glyphs have shapes of letters of an Indic language. It is easy to think that when glyphs look like Indic that the font is created on unicode codepoints of an Indic Script. This font is under the Latin Script as defined in the OpenType standard because it uses the 'default' language under Latin Script by using Latin-1 character set and naming the language as Default. Please refer to the following page on ligatures: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/TTOCHAP1.htm I am requesting that Scribus allows the 'Liga' (standard ligatures) feature of OpenType. The part that applies to Latin Script in the OpenType standard is the following: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/OpenType%20Dev/standard/intro.mspx The organization of the Layout Tags of an OpenType font are here: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/ttoreg.htm Thank you! JC |
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That does not change the fact that this issue is a duplicate of already existing bugs related to ligatures and OpenType support |
| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2009-07-27 15:48 | jc | New Issue | |
| 2009-07-27 15:48 | jc | File Added: Suriyakumara.ttf | |
| 2009-07-27 15:52 |
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Relationship added | related to 0004645 |
| 2009-07-27 15:53 |
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Note Added: 0022241 | |
| 2009-07-27 15:54 |
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Relationship added | child of 0001547 |
| 2009-07-27 15:55 |
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Status | new => acknowledged |
| 2009-07-27 17:02 | cbradney | Note Added: 0022242 | |
| 2009-07-27 17:02 | cbradney | Status | acknowledged => closed |
| 2009-07-27 17:02 | cbradney | Resolution | open => duplicate |
| 2009-07-28 16:42 | jc | Note Added: 0022252 | |
| 2009-07-28 16:42 | jc | Status | closed => feedback |
| 2009-07-28 16:42 | jc | Resolution | duplicate => reopened |
| 2009-07-28 16:59 | jghali | Note Added: 0022253 | |
| 2009-07-28 16:59 | jghali | Status | feedback => resolved |
| 2009-07-28 16:59 | jghali | Resolution | reopened => duplicate |
| 2009-07-28 16:59 | jghali | Assigned To | => jghali |
| 2009-07-28 16:59 | jghali | Status | resolved => closed |
